Jeebus Freaks

So… it’s 1am on a Tuesday morning. My wife and kids are in bed, and I’m sitting in front of the computer with a glass of dry red watching clips of Bill Maher doing his “New Rules” bits on YouTube, and suddenly I have this moment of clarity: This isn’t me! The seriousness that has crawled into my life… it’s not me.

I like to laugh and make other people laugh. My favourite author is Douglas Adams. My favourite television shows are The Simpsons, Futurama, Friends, How I Met Your Mother, Frasier, Blackadder and Absolutely Fabulous (Okay, I also like Lost, Dexter and 4400, but they don’t prove my point as efficiently, so shutup!). I buy every issue of MAD magazine. About 10% of my MP3 collection is made up of stand-up bits by Jerry Seinfeld,  Jeff Foxworthy and George Carlin (Yes, yes! I also have Leonard Cohen and Dead Can Dance, but you’re missing thre point. Shutup!). How come my recent mood (as reflected by my blog posts) is so serious and depressing, when humour is the one thing that I value most in life?

Enough.

This rabbit hole has led me to the realm of my enemy, the humourless religious fanatics. Strange infectious diseases spread like wild fire down here. Diseases that make you lose YOUR humour. I’m showing the first symptoms already. Must… get…. out!

So a priest, a rabbi and a…. NO! Must… be… funny!

Anywoo… I needed to get that off my chest. Point is: I want to make fun of religious nut-jobs. Any valid social comentary that is raised in the process must be completely accidental. A url like “JeebusFreaks” should surely not be so sullen!

I hereby pledge to return to the land of the laughing. No more will Jeebus Freak bore you to death! Begone foul frown! Ye hath no more power here!

PS: Sarah Palin still scares the crap out of me. What IS that thing?!

I’ve been otherwise occupied lately: A lot of work. A stop-motion short movie. Giving up smoking. etc.

Whatever the reasons, I just couldn’t find the time (or the energy) to write anything for a while. I have now been ripped out of my complacency by the heating up of the American Presidential election. No, I’m not American, but America does scare the shit of me! I think America scares the shit out of the whole world… and if it doesn’t, it should!

The USA sets the trends that we follow. The USA carries enough weight to dictate international policies (think FICA and airport security).  The USA has the largest, most powerful army in the world, and they’re not afraid to use it. The actions of the USA cause retaliations against nations that are friendly to them. No other economy affects global markets as much as that of the USA. The list goes on.

This is why the world is so interested in American Presidential elections… and we need to be, even though it annoys the crap out of me that Time doesn’t report on anything ELSE these days!

I have never been more interested in the election than now. Firstly this is the year in which I became active as an atheism activist (or at least started PLANNING on becoming active) and therefore started consuming a lot more news, and secondly because this is the first time that a genuine, honest to Thor creationist nut-job could become the leader of the free world. I’m not talking about McCain. I’m talking about Palin. *shivers run down my spine*

I’m not going to reiterate what everybody else has been raging about: The risk of McCain dying while in office and leaving the Alaskan Moose Assassin in charge. The inexperience of Sarah Palin. The nuttiness of Sarah Palin. etc. etc. etc. I’m going to say: STOP IT!!!

I think that every you have all fallen into a trap. McCain didn’t choose her for her values or experience or whatever. He chose her because it would get people talking! Everywhere I look I see people ripping off Sarah Palin. Talk shows from Late Night to Real Time (I watch on YouTube), websites everywhere, etc. I’ve been so swamped with Sarah Palin news, rumours and criticisms that I struggled to remember who Obama’s running mate was! It’s Joe Biden, just in case you couldn’t get that name off of the tip of your tongue.

I think that this is the plan: The average American idiot (I’m sorry to all the intelligent Americans reading this, but your country REALLY has a “fat and dumb” image over here, and I’ve spoken to many Brits and Aussies who agree) will get to the polls without actually knowing what Obama’s policies are (let alone who his VP choice is… or what McCain’s policies are!). They will be so overloaded with Sarah Palin that they’ll probably just vote for her (or was McCain actually running? I forget). I can just see the thought process now:

“Mmmm… Obama/Biden. Who’s Biden? Obama? Osama? Wait… what’s on the other side… McCain/Palin. McCain: I like the frozen veggies that he makes. Does he make the frozen veggies? Palin? Oh, right! Wife and mother. Hockey-mom. Knocked-up daughter… poor woman!. Son in Iraq… poor woman! She was a governor, wasn’t she? So she knows how to govern.  Arnold Schwarzenegger is a governor. I liked Terminator 2.  I wonder if Arnold will ever make movies again. Wait… what was I doing? Oh yes, voting. Palin… yeah why not?!”

When you highlight the weaknesses of your opponent, all that you are doing is telling people about your opponent. There’s no such thing as bad advertising! I look at the media now, and all I see is Obama supporters dissing McCain/Palin. That’s fine. But all I see McCain supporters doing is praising McCain/Palin… and of course the intermittent rumour that Obama is a Muslim/communist or something else that these idiots see as an insult. The fact of the matter is, Obama supporters are being seen as a bunch of mud-slinging, bad-mouthing complainers. Yes, I am just as flabbergasted as you at this ridiculous candidate and his even more ridiculous running mate, but don’t fall into the popularity trap!

Complete off topic remark #1: What is this “gay” insult I see on forums, by the way? “Shut up, man! You’re so freekin’ gay!” And? Oh, was that it? Well, in that case I give up! I cannot possibly compete with your superior wit! Git.

So American readers: How about writing some positive things about  Obama and Biden?  Put THOSE names into the minds of the voting public. I know that it’s much more fun to complain, but PLEASE: as a citizen of the world who cannot even vote in an election that so dramatically impacts me, I plead with you! Do every single thing that you can to keep that crazy lady out of the White House.

Thank you.

I remember when I first heard of Richard Dawkins: Somebody gave me a bootleg copy of The Root Of All Evil?. I remember thinking RD was a bit too aggressive. That was before I became a parent and realized that we HAD to be aggressive. I started scouring the Internet for everything I could find to help me as an atheist parent. RD turned out to be a source of great help in the form of well thought out arguments. Reading The God Delusion was one of the best things that I ever did.

Having found my champion, I watched every single interview that I could find of RD. One thing became quite annoying: the poor man had to answer the SAME questions… over, and over, and over, and… you get the point. I realized that he was on a mission to spread a message, and that he had obviously made peace with the fact that he would have to repeat himself, even if it meant that he had only gotten through to one more person. I don’t have such a high tolerance.

This is an article about a failed attempt to raise money for an atheistic advert on a London bus. One of the comments said this (in among some other verbal diarrhea):

“Many atheists attempt to define themselves as “lacking belief”, which their strong anti-religious presumptions betray is not really true, and which is a quasi agnostic position in any case. Poor presumptuous mites.”

Well. All I can say to that is… OH, FUCK OFF!!! Yes, we have all read The God Delusion. We all know about the scale proposed by RD, and his statement that he himself is not a full-blown atheist, etc, etc. I don’t agree with him fully. Why are we expected to tip-toe around certain terms and phrases? Why do we have to duly consider every koo-koo idea somebody comes up with?

Yes, technically… TECHNICALLY, we are all agnostic about everything that cannot be disproved. Technically. We are Tooth Fairy agnostics, we are Flying Spaghetti Monster agnostics, we are Russel’s Teapot agnostics, we are Bigfoot agnostics… I could go on. If this is the case, the word “atheist” has no place in the dictionary, does it? Well, what if I am not merely an agnostic about all the above mentioned things? What if I want to CLEARLY state that I will not waste ANY energy on this absolutely ridiculous idea?

TECHNICALLY… I am an agnostic as Richard Dawkins described it. PRACTICALLY… I’m going to call myself an atheist, thank you very much! Get used to it! You didn’t “catch me out”, or “make me think”! You’re simply digressing into an argument over semantics while the real issue is much bigger. Okay? I have thought about it. I have considered your argument. I have concluded that it is bullshit. I am still calling myself an atheist.

Side note: Sorry Sam Harris, but I don’t subscribe to your wishy-washy approach. There is no word for non-racists, so why is there one for a non-theist? Well, we are not fighting a concept like racism here. We are fighting an institution called religion. That makes it more like fighting Apartheid than racism, and for that there were anti-Apartheid activists. Now, we could start calling ourselves anti-religion activists, but the term “atheists” already has the required sting… and that’s what we want. Plus, we don’t want to resort to renaming things until it most easily slips into human brains. That’s what the other side does. Let’s not forget about Creationism… I mean Creation Science… no I mean Intelligent Design… I’m confused.

Now… this is the THIRD time I’ve said this. I said this (basically) in the comments of my very first post on Jeebus Freaks. I’ve said it on richarddawkins.net in the Debate Points section. Now I’ve said it here… right on the front page of my blog. Don’t make me repeat myself again!

This goes for all the lame arguments that I read everywhere, all the time, again and again. If you feel that urge to make a point that you are sure is brand new and completely unique and will make all us deluded atheists think for a change, just go and look around to see if it has not been countered somewhere. This is a good place to start.

Now, leave me alone and let me get to work protecting my children from all you whack-jobs who want to teach them that the world is only 6000 years old, and that they should loath themselves and watch what they think or question for the rest of their lives. It’s a full-time job… there are a lot of you out there.

Edit: It has been pointed out to me that using profanity greatly reduces the impact of a post. I used profanity twice here: once in a comically intended “FUCK OFF” (which I have left as is), and once where I called myself a “fucking atheist”, which in hindsight wasn’t really all that clever, and has been changed. As far as the first and remaining use of profanity goes, there just isn’t a proper English alternative that has the desired impact. Billy Connolly put it very nicely when he said that the proper English for “fuck off” was not “go away”, or even “GO AWAY!!!”. The only way to say it is “fuck off”. No need for capitalization or exclamation marks. These were only used for extra effect. There you have it… if you don’t like it, GO AWAY!!!

Edit again: I do not consider “bullshit” profanity, so shut it!

This post concerns this post on Pharyngula, but first just a comment to PZ:

I was away for a while. I couldn’t blog about it the way you do because my wife wouldn’t recognize the laptop as luggage. Anyway… I am finally back and web-connected, and decided to catch up on your blog, only to find a whole host of post by guest bloggers. I read quite a few, and although they generally have good things to say (especially on the science side), I have to tell you that this is not what I read your blog for. I read it to see what YOU have to say. If you are away for a while… that’s fine. I can wait. No offence to the various guest bloggers…. but get your own spots. I read many blogs, and if I like what you have to say I would gladly read yours. Just like I read Pharyngula because I like what PZ has to say.

With that rant over: WHY ON EARTH DO WE NEED AN ATHEIST SYMBOL?

Firstly, there is a more than acceptable symbol employed by the OUT Campaign. I have a lapel pin and wear it to show support for fellow atheists who might still think they are the only ones out there. It is not a replacement for a crucifix around my neck, but rather more like a t-shirt that says “SAY NO TO DRUGS”.

I would very much like to go to the AAI Convention, but purely to network and learn about how to deal with religious fanaticism and discrimination against atheists.

If you want to hold weekly meetings on how to be a good atheist, wear little “A” pendants and have a secret handshake, perhaps you should take up religion. Or join the Stonecutters… “Who keeps the metric system down? We do!”

The world does not need another religion. It needs us to stand up and say ENOUGH! Enough with silly superstitions and rituals. The OUT Campaign is the perfect place to start… and they HAVE a symbol. Don’t confuse the issue again. I know that organizing atheists is like herding cats, but for goodness’ sake can we just show some solidarity on this please?

Richard Dawkins and friends started the OUT Campaign. It is a worthy venture. They picked a symbol. It was not a democratic process… they started it and they had the right to pick the symbol. If you support the campaign, you can show your support by displaying the symbol on your person, on your car, etc. I see NO point in another symbol of any kind.

I bought the DVD of last year’s AAI Convention, and although I did not agree with everything Sam Harris had to say about using the term “atheist” and so forth, I did appreciate his opening comments. He basically said that, preparing his speech, he had had a choice between simply throwing meat to the wolves (i.e. going on about how crap religion is and making the crowd happy), or talking about something a little more controversial. If all that happened at the AAI Conventions was “throwing meat to the wolves”, as he put it, the convention would be nothing more than an annual church service.

What is needed is definite help, support, information, assistance, etc for atheists. In this respect I think the AAI Convention was mostly good last year. I did not know about this “symbol choosing” thing, but this is presicely what we DON’T need.

Don’t get me wrong… I like the idea of a “club” (the kind you belong to… not the kind you bludgeon things with). I like the feeling of being part of something. It’s probably a human need that organized religion satisfies, and that we as atheists now miss, and this is where this desire for symbols etc comes from. But come on, people: we know religion is crap. We know science is great. If we are just going to sit around repeating that and fitting into the mold set out by religions, then they will eventually be RIGHT when they call atheism a religion.

“Atheism is a religion like bald is a hair colour.” Yes, that’s true. But when bald starts coming in blond, brunette and hazel, and started going to salons every week to change to one of the others, it would start looking a hell of a LOT like a hair colour.

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Seriously… reading arguments for the existence of gods make me so despondent sometimes…

From Pharyngula I ended up on Vox Day’s blog (shivers run down my spine just SAYING that). As usual he was ranting and raving about the poor, misinformed atheists, and in particular about PZ Myers being a coward for not wanting to debate him on radio.

Whenever I hear this type of “debate me” challenge, I always feel so sorry for scientists: Most of them have important work to do and don’t have a lot of time in general. Now some moron makes a fantastical claim about some or other unprovable (is that a word?) delusion, and they are somehow expected to make time to DEBATE the jerk about it. Science is specifically NOT about debate… but I digress.

One of the comments on Vox’s blog said something about how “weak” the atheists’ case was. A rationalist replied brilliantly, in my opinion:

“There is no atheist ‘case’. Lacking convincing evidence, we fail to believe in something you proclaim, with certainty, to exist. The burden is on you to prove your claim.”

Then some OTHER idiot replied with the following:

“Your case hinges, among other things, on abiogenesis. You make an assumption that life has been born spontaneously from non-life, so now you have explaining to do yourself. Which you will not do, since there is no explanation.”

To people who agree with the above statement: You make EXACTLY the same “assumption”! The only difference is that we are still trying to explain how this happened. To us, “God did it” is not a satisfactory explanation, and we find it rather infuriating that it IS for you. It is infuriating to us because it is an ESSENTIAL human endeavour to explain the origin and mechanics of natural phenomena. Let me draw a comparison:

Let us say, for argument sake, that meteorologists of the past just COULDN’T figure out why and how huricanes formed, and try as they might could not predict in which direction they moved. Let us then say that they accepted that these things could NOT be explained, and simply accepted that God made huricanes whenever he felt like it, and made them move in completely random directions. We therefore cannot warn people of approaching huricanes, nobody would ever be evacuated, and the death toll during any such event would be hundreds of times greater that they are today.

Would you agree that it was a good idea for meteorologists to keep going until they DID find an explanation, and that it is a good idea for them to keep going today?

This was quite a “dramatic” example, so let’s pick something else that is actually based in reality:

When the first guy claimed the Earth orbited the Sun, it was also the religious (surprise, surprise, surprise!) who fought against the idea because it contradicted their beliefs. Luckily for us, a few burning at stakes etc did not deter followers of reason and logic, and today we KNOW that the Earth orbits the Sun, and have used that fact as the basis for all kinds of other usefull discoveries. Anybody with half a brain would say today that it was a DAMNED GOOD THING that the religious idiots of that time didn’t continue to get their way and prevent scientists from advancing their understanding of the universe.

Now, why… WHY are these people doing it AGAIN? Are they really so forgetful… and shortsighted? Why, every single time someone challenges their pathetic little beliefs do they try to squash it? Have they learned NOTHING from the past? Every time this has happened in the past science eventually prevailed, and the result has always been indispensable knowledge that has been used to the benefit of the planet.

Yet, here we are again. “You can’t explain it. There is no explanation. Trust in God.” The knowledge of how life started and how the universe started is no different from the examples above. We MUST keep going. We MUST figure it out. It’s what humans do. And it’s for the benifit of everybody on Earth.

Are you really afraid that we might actually prove that God does not exist? If God really DIDN’T exist, wouldn’t you want to know? Sticking your fingers in your ears, squeezing your eyes shut and singing “la-la-la-la” loudly does not change facts.

“Muslim women win rights of inheritance”, read the page 6 headline in our Sunday paper, The Sunday Times.

My first thought was: “What?! Were Muslim women never allowed to inherit anything? Well I’m glad my country has the balls to stand up to nonsense like that!” But the headline turned out to be slightly misleading… and my mind turned out to be slightly predisposed to thinking the worst of Muslims! In any case, as it happens the whole thing had to do with my country’s view on polygamy.

In South Africa (and probably in most other places in the world) the estate of a person who died without a will automatically goes to his/her spouse. If the spouse isn’t there to collect it, then to his/her children. And so forth down the family line. Unfortunately, South African law does not recognize polygamous Muslim marriages (strangely, “customary polygamous African marriages” ARE recognized… I thought we were over this whole separate standards for different races thing… or is it a religious right? I thought we were secular!), and therefore the wives are skipped in the above mentioned process, with the estate going directly to the children.

This particular story was about a Muslim woman who was more than a little pissed after returning from Mecca to find her husband had taken another wife, described as “19-year-old Miriam”. Her aggitation is understandable, taking into account that she had been married to the man for 36 YEARS!!! With a nice Holywood twist, the husband died shortly afterwards of a heart attack… whether this was due to the presumably more energetic “19-year-old Miriam”, or perhaps “a woman scorned”, we shall never know.

The end result was the poor wife #1 left penniless and almost homeless after her husband’s estate was duly awarded to his children… which were HER children, presumably… but who wouldn’t give her a cent, presumably. Anyway… all’s well that ends well: after only a 7 seven year struggle (with a nice 3 month holiday in the hospital after a nervous breakdown) that ended up in the constitutional court, the wives were awarded a portion of the estate. Hooray for the South African legal system!

Sorry to “go local” on this post, but I just had to get in a good rant. I was a bit shocked at my “jumping to conclusions” ability when it comes to Muslims, though. But truth be told I think Muslims are more to blame for that than me.

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After some confusion over the legitimacy of it all, Atheist Nexus has been cleared of all charges!

I’m not a HUGE fan of social networks in general. I can’t remember the last time I logged on to facebook, for instance. The problem is I just don’t have the time, and call me old fashioned but I prefer one-on-one chats to all this writing on walls, poking, sending virtual drinks to and biting with vampire teeth that goes on over there.

That being said, I think Atheist Nexus is something worth supporting. It is not just an elaborate facebook group for atheists, but rather an elaborate atheist FACEBOOK. I think, used correctly and intelligently, it can be a very handy tool for promoting events, causes and act as a general support group in the free-thinking realm.

At the moment I have all the e-mail notifications turned on, as I believe in giving everything a fair chance… but I must admit I’m already considering turning them off! My inbox is overfull already!

Either way I will put in some effort and see where this goes… even if it is just to avoid those nasty werewolves and “hatching eggs” that lurk elsewhere.

I’ve been following the Crackergate debacle on PZ Myers’ Pharyngula blog. For those of you who don’t feel like reading the 1000+ comments on that post, or the multitude on all the follow-up posts, here is a summary:

1) University boy takes Eucharist (consecrated wafer eaten during Catholic communion) back to his seat to show to a friend instead of eating it. He get’s pushed and pulled around a bit by angry Catholics, and leaves with the Eucharist.
2) After boy receives numerous death-threats and there’s talk of getting him expelled, he returns the cracker to the church and apologizes.
3) The mindless bigot Bill Donohue of the Catholic League says that ain’t enough, and claims that the boy has “desecrated the Host by removing it from the Church”.
4) PZ Myers comments on the stupidity of this blow-up over a cracker, and invites his readers to send him a Eucharist so that he can show the world some REAL desecration.
5) Bill Donohue goes after poor PZ for that comment.
6) All hell breaks loose.

The latest bit of laughable news is that a Republican Catholic Convention will be held close to (actually a 3 hour drive from!) PZ’s city of residence, and one of the organizers has had additional security put in place to protect the event from the evil PZ Myers (and his cyberpistol) and his “followers”.

Now I have been reading comments from both sides… MANY comments, and have been trying to figure out why the religious have such a bleak view of atheists. Atheist after atheist present logical arguments (with the inevitable name-calling thrown in), and yet the Christians keep calling them “bigoted”, “aggressive”, etc. While pondering this, I followed a link posted in one of the comments, and suddenly it made sense.

Someone entered through an open door, and took the bread that was lying there, which happened to be the Eucharist. Nobody knows who did it, or even exactly when it happened. That’s the story,but then comes the comments: every single one put forth the proposition that it must have been Satanists who needed it for their evil rituals.

Strange… because my first thought was: “Some poor homeless guy walks into an open church, sees food lying there, takes it and walks out. Case solved… now get over it and get some new bread!”

Here is my realization: These Catholics (they are the ones involved in both instances) have a built-in, monochrome projector that cannot be switched off. They cannot help but project their own black-and-white world-view on everybody else. Some examples:

Fact: They REVERE the Eucharist. The opposite of REVERE is HATE (sort of). There is no middle ground when it comes to religion.
Fact: The boy who took the cracker felt NOTHING towards it, and simply wanted to show it to his friend.
Projection: “The boy who took the Host HATED it! He desecrated it!”

Fact: They FOLLOW a priest, doing what he says because God talks through him.
Fact: PZ Myers has READERS who agree with him sometimes (other times not), who would tell him to get bent if he told them to do anything they didn’t feel like doing.
Projection: “PZ Myers has FOLLOWERS who do his evil bidding!”

Fact: They burn, ban and otherwise desecrate things that offends them.
Fact: A holy bread is stolen from their church, probably by a hungry homeless person.
Projection: “A holy bread is stolen from our church, probably by evil Satanists who want to burn and generally desecrate it because it offends them!”

I keep seeing this type of thing, and it irritates the living crap out of me. But it might be something that needs to be understood to assist in the development of more effective arguments against these deluded people… or perhaps the development of some kind of de-christianising brain ray.

All I know is that calling them poo-poo heads just doesn’t carry the same sting that it used to.

Welcome to Jeebus Freaks. This blog will be where I talk about what is important to me, and anybody is welcome to comment.

I would like to start by summarizing my personal philosophies, beliefs (or lack thereof) and interests, and also by laying out some “ground rules” (for the lack of a better term) for posting comments on this blog.

First and foremost, and most relevant to this blog, I am an atheist and science enthusiast. I also LOVE humour. Combine science and humour, and I will revere you for all times. Douglas Adams, I miss you.

I think all superstitions are laughable and should be subjected to criticism.
I am not “angry at God”… I simply don’t believe he (or any other mythical being) exists. In actual fact I don’t “believe” in anything.
I know some things, I DON’T know some other things, and I subscribe to certain theories that attempt to explain the things I do not know.
I immediately discard theories that fail to explain something adequately or that can be proven to be false, hence my atheism.
PLEASE NOTE: Hearsay and writings in old books that cannot be backed up by facts do not explain anything adequately OR constitute facts, so please refrain from using these in arguments on Jeebus Freaks. If you insist on doing so, do not be surprised or offended if you are called a fool.

I like science. It’s interesting.
I want to see significant advancement in human knowledge and technology in my lifetime.
I would very much like to visit Mars, the Eagle Nebula and Omicron Persei 8.
I think it’s about bloody time that somebody invented a teleporter! Burning dead dinosaurs to get around is really getting old.
No, science doesn’t explain everything (yet), but science certainly CAN explain everything. If you can’t tell the difference, think about it and read books until you can.

I will try… REALLY try… not to criticize anybody for a lack of knowledge. I will try educate or refer you to the relevant knowledge. I would prefer all my users to follow this philosophy, and I want to encourage my users to call me on it if I forget to do so.
I WILL, however, criticize ignorance. I think an example is required.

INCORRECT:
[User A]: “Star Wars made the mistake of having sound in space.”
[User B]: “What’s wrong with that? There IS sound in space.”
[User A]: “You damned idiot! How can you think that?! You’re a moron! Go home and play with your toys! You’re a biggoted asshole and your worse than Hitler!”

CORRECT:
[User A]: “Star Wars made the mistake of having sound in space.”
[User B]: “What’s wrong with that? There IS sound in space.”
[User A]: “No there isn’t. Go look at the following Wikipedia entry to see why”
[User B]: “I read the entry, and now understand the concept of sound waves. Thank you for setting me straight!”

ALSO CORRECT:
[User A]: “Star Wars made the mistake of having sound in space.”
[User B]: “What’s wrong with that? There IS sound in space.”
[User A]: “No there isn’t. Go look at the following Wikipedia entry to see why”
[User B]: “No! I have always believed that there IS sound in space, and none of your so called ‘proof’ will sway me! You’re just discriminating against me and my space-sound-believing brothers! Nazi!”
[User A]: “You’re an ignorant fool. If you will not listen to reason I see no point in any further discussion. Good day.”

Okay, the last comment by User A is PROBABLY a bit more civil than can be expected, but I hope you all get my point.

I think that’s about it. I will be posting my first rant/comment/whatever soon, and I hope we can build up a lively community here.

Looking forward to your comments!